rmt: yeah my team finally needs some help

[blaze]

starter pokemon: just to hit a couple pokes

hitmonlee@choice scarf
nature:adamant
ability:reckless
ev's 255 att/speed
moveset:
high jump kick
blaze kick
EQ
dizzy punch(dont really need it)

or

dugtrio@choice band
nature:adamant or jolly
ability: arena trap
ev's: 255 att/speed
moveset:
EQ
slash
sucker punch
rock slide

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specail sweeper

alakazam@focus sash
nature:modest
ability:syncronize
ev's: 255 sp-att/speed
moveset:
psychic
HP-dragon 70 bp
energy ball
shadow ball

psyical sweeper not sure if i should replace a move for pursuit

heracross@flame orb
nature: jolly
ability: guts
ev's 255 att/speed
moveset:
protect
close combat
megahorn
EQ

specail sweeper number 2

porygon-z
nature:modest
ability:adaptibilty
ev's: 255 sp-att/speed
moveset:
tri att
ice beam
thunder bolt
psychic

psyical sweeper number 2

nidoking@muscle band
nature:jolly
ability:rivalry
ev's: 255 att/speed
moveset:
EQ
sucker punch
TP
poison jab

spiker and defender

forretress@sitrus berry
nature:impish
ability: sturdy
ev's: 255 def/hp
moveset:
spikes
rapid spin
stealth rock
explosion

just wondering which is better on the hitmonlee or dugtrio
and if u think dugtrio is better which nature should he have
if u think something is better like if i dont need a move on a poke let me know

[The Persian Gato]

hitmonlee@choice scarf
nature:adamant
ability:reckless
ev's 255 att/speed
moveset:
high jump kick
blaze kic
EQ
dizzy punch(dont really need it)

Interestin' idea for an opener. Generally I find it's better to open with a special attacker first, though. Seeing how it has reckless.. you might as well put Return on him over dizzy punch. That way you've got a better physical attack vs psychic types.

dugtrio@choice band
nature:adamant or jolly
ability: arena trap
ev's: 255 att/speed
moveset:
EQ
slash
sucker punch
rock slide

Nao this is a fun pokemon to open with. *whistles* Really great opener too. I recommend you remove slash attack though.... seems pointless really. If you don't want to put Aerial Ace on him, you might as well go Facade.

alakazam@focus sash
nature:modest
ability:syncronize
ev's: 255 sp-att/speed
moveset:
psychic
HP-dragon 70 bp
energy ball
shadow ball

good set, generally it's a good idea focus blast on him though. It really has it's uses with pokemon that wall this poke.


heracross@flame orb
nature: jolly
ability: guts
ev's 255 att/speed
moveset:
protect
close combat
megahorn
EQ

Right.. so let me guess Protect first turn to get burn on to both up and lower your attack so it averages out.. then you go out and attack with your mighty normal force. Do you really fear this poke getting status effected that much? Have you ever fought a team that has toxic spikes out? They never set up if they see a guts user. The only problem you would ever have is a t-waving and when they see this poke... they've still gotta switch into it.

All and all ditch protect.. and honestly toxic orb ftw. Sure you get damage alot more over time, but at least it doesn't null out the burn boost. Which then makes this thing a threat.

porygon-z
nature:modest
ability:adaptibilty
ev's: 255 sp-att/speed
moveset:
tri att
ice beam
thunder bolt
psychic

Well now I love this pokemon, it's swept entire teams for me before... right either way You've got adaptabilty on it so Tri-attack is basically what you spam. That's basically a x2 hit against anything. So what everything else he has should be based on development and x4 effectiveness.

Ice beam is good for those dragons and such.

Thunderbolt.. will honestly only cover a single pokemon better than tri-attack. Gyrados.. and most people who carry Gyra have an electvire just waitin' to come out. If you wanna keep it though, it'd be great for skamory.

Psychic is normally a terrible attacking type.. I mean you have fighting and you have posion. Sure there is a lot of apes and other running around, but tri-attack is more than enough to take care of them.

Overall Either remove T-bolt or Psychic and replace it with one move that it really needs... Dark Pulse. Seeing how Z's tri attack is ineffective against ghost pokemon, you need something to hit them back and neither t-bolt or psychic will cut it. As for the item, even with max speed evs and a + speed nature (which yours doesn't have) it can still be outrun by alot of it's threats @ choice scarf ftw.

nidoking@muscle band
nature:jolly
ability:rivalry
ev's: 255 att/speed
moveset:
EQ
sucker punch
TP
poison jab

First off I've gotta state something that most people don't know Rivalry is a double-edged ability. Seeing how it is a NinoKING, whever you run into male pokemon your moves attacks are boosted x 1.25... now say you meet a female pokemon. No it isn't normal, damage calculation tests have proved that it goes down so damage is x .75. Of course a lot of pokemon in play are males.. but on team, I carry only two male pokes. As for it's moves.. looks standard. Cept I don't know what TP is.

Forretress is.. standard I suppose... I don't like the item on him though. You should replace the sitrus berry with the one that reduces fire damage by x.5. Seeing how it's the things only weakness you figure people would attack ya with it.


I prefer Dugtrio over Lee and give Dugtrio Jolly since your already gonna give him a band.

[Hikari-chan]

The Heracross Burn thing Persian. I believe the Guts overides the burn minus damage effect, so you do 1.5x damage. So, Burn Orb is better than Toxic Orb. Also, I say replace Earthquake with Stone Edge. You can pwn those pesky flying types now. XD

[blaze]

TP is thunder punch for waters and flyings

[The Persian Gato]

"BRN is 0.5 if the move performed is physical, the user is affected by the Burn special condition and the user's ability is not Guts, and 1 otherwise."

[xxfollowthereaperx]

I am getting heracross to and I am not sure about the Evs but my Heracross is going to be

Heracross@Salac Berry

Endure
Megahorn
Reversal
Swords Dance

If you are fighting a type that can ohko you use Endure. Then the Salac berry kicks in just in case and then keep using Reversal. Use Swords Dance if they cant ohko you. When they are about to kill you use Endure to stop it from killing you. The Salac berry will work and then kill the person with Reversal. For ghosts just use Mega Horn.

Pretty good sweeper right

[Hikari-chan]

Ehh.... Is that so? Serebii.net failed me. >3>

It said "For those who are unaware, it also grants Heracross an immunity to the attack drop from Burn whilst retaining the 1.5x boost"

[The Persian Gato]

*shrugs* well I guess smogan or serebii has ta be wrong on it.

[xxfollowthereaperx]

What is smogon

[Chumm34]

xxfollowthereaperx said:

What is smogon

yeah, what is that? sorry i kept battling you the other day blaze. my cable was down but my wifi was working. i was the wtf but hey,im hella bored and blaze always seems to battle. lol
i like your hitmonlee btw never seen a shiny one annd that shiny nidoking is a beast, he caused so many problems for me >.< lol

[blaze]

nice idea for heracross but the weakest quick att or focus sasher could kill him

thnx guys(mostly persian) for helping my team

[The Persian Gato]

xxfollowthereaperx said:

What is smogon

www.smogon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=43

It's a website that was really really popular during the third gen. But their site when down for maintenance when they were updating for the 4th gen and.. never came back up. Only the forums are up at this time.

No problem Blaze, best of luck with your new team.

[xxfollowthereaperx]

Thanks persian and yea that is bad for heracross but its still ok right

[Hikari-chan]

To counter a quick attacker... You could... switch. Lol. Just look at the enemy! It's a ratatta! ZOMG! IT has Quickattack! Lol.